California officials announce closure of 70 state parks

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I am wondering how they are going to keep people out of the state beaches - Gray Whale Cove SB is on the list as are a few others.

This sucks.

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friscohio
2 years ago

Park closures keep the good people who take care of parks out and lets in the bad people to set up meth labs and grow ops. The cost to clean up the mess and unkept parks will exceed this little cost savings they expect to have. Not cool.

Kooktastic
2 years ago

Arnold for President!

Chopper
2 years ago

Actually, the California voters had the ability to prevent this by passing the parks funding initiative but shot it down. Just a little more on everyone's car registration would have fully funded the parks service and would have cut osme of the individual user fees. it used to be that going camping in a state park was an affordable vacation for families -- especially those on tight incomes. No more and now there will be even fewer places to camp.

redtim
2 years ago

This does sort of suck, but for the most part, closed parks means no one there to keep you from going in. A lot of parks up the coast have been closed for the past few winters, usually with just a few cones across the entrance.
I would never do anything illegal, but I hear tell of people camping there unmolested.

Castle Rock is on the list too, think the climbers are going to stay out?
no way.

fullybrah
2 years ago

fees were getting crazy high anyhow. time to poach. banks are too big to fail but physical space is not. failed wars and thieves in suits have f-ed us all.

piss_shiver
2 years ago

Let us now be the thieves in wet-suits then. I'll clean up after myself, scout's honor.

pelicanpaul
2 years ago

so many parks. so little time. I find it weird that they would close down Jack London SP. Very cool place... we have lost our priorities as a country if you ask me. No worries about Grey Whale cove. That was a place before it was a freaking park.

piss_shiver
2 years ago

Well, "they" and I use the State I guess...could make barriers to the parking facilities to GWC across the way...so that could prohibit parking...and if it's closed, then it's plausible that fishcops could ticket cars illegally parked there because it's "closed". So, if you're looking for a grim meathook future, it's not hard to imagine it. Whether it comes to fruition is another thing. I certainly hope not. As for remedies to this...one could possibly hope for a) non enforcement b) access to coastline as law trump, c) last ditch effort for no-parking, kind soul fun-shuttles (bring a blanket and jacket :) )

fatnewt
2 years ago

This could be a bummer for GW and there are a lot of cool spots on the list.

sandcastle
2 years ago

Limekiln?! Seriously? That place is booked solid for six months a year. Granted, it's small. Makes me think that the attendance criteria is in sheer numbers versus percentage of occupancy.
I guess I'd better get my ass down there soon.

fatnewt
2 years ago

Here's the actual announcement:

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/712/files/2011ParkClosures_attachments2011...

Looking at the list today I think it could have been worse as far as surfing and coastal access, but there's a lot of really cool spots that I haven't been to in a long time. With the economic downturn people began to use the state parks more, so the closures compound a crumby situation. But the last time I camped up North they were talking about closures at the time. It's a perennial threat and hopefully nothing will come of it.

burro
2 years ago

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Capra
2 years ago

Too bad the state can't cut from some of the social services provided to many of those who aren't contributing. That would make too much sense and save too much money. Ah, the 'special interests'. California may be fiscally doomed, but at least we still have great weather and a beautiful coastline! Let's enjoy it while we can still afford it :)

ncalsurfer
2 years ago

A bummer for sure, but don't blame it on the voters who didn't approve of bailing out politicians who can't balance a budget by sticking even more fees into our already ridiculous registration fees. Yes, short term it might have prevented park closure, but long term it is another "stick it to the taxpayer" bailout. We already pay for start parks. If the stupid elected officials can't figure out how to spend the money we already give them, then they should be fired!

Bobby G
2 years ago

For me, "no new taxes" is a way of life. Speaking of a way of life, that reminds me of a great movie: Stu Nahan: [Spicoli is dreaming that hes won a surfing competition]
Hello everybody! Im Stu Nahan, and Id like you to meet this young
man. His name, Jeff Spicoli. And Jeff, congratulations to you.
Things looked kind of rough out there today.
Jeff Spicoli: Well, Ill tell you Stu, I did battle some humongous
waves! But you know, just like I told the guy on ABC, "Danger is my
business!"
Stu Nahan: You know, a lot of people expected maybe Mark "Cutback"
Davis or Bob "Jungle Death" Gerrard would take the honors this
year.
Jeff Spicoli: [laughs incredulously] Those guys are fags!
Stu Nahan: [oblivious] Thats fantastic! Let me ask you a question.
When you get out there, do you ever fear for your life?
Jeff Spicoli: Well Stu Ill tell you, surfings not a sport, its a
way of life, you know, a hobby. Its a way of looking at that wave
and saying, "Hey bud, lets party!" [focuses on Stus sport coat]
Whered you get this jacket?
Stu Nahan: [evasive] I got this from the network. Let me ask you a
question. Whats next for Jeff Spicoli?
Jeff Spicoli: Heading over to the Australian and Hawaiian
internationals, and then me and Mick are going to wing on over to
London and jam with the Stones! [to the two girls next to him] And
you guys are invited too!

dakota
2 years ago

eh, it kinda sucks, but you know people will still show up. trash will still need to be collected. there's a healthy volunteer pool around here, we will take care of biz @ gwc for example... and crsp, redtim -- you can be pretty damn sure the climbers will do likewise. being both a surfer and a climber... there's no way you keep climbers out of castle rock, and if anything, they're historically better or at least equal at env. stewardship as surfers. parking is going to be a bit of a flashpoint issue though, if they barrier the lots, beachside and cragside.

Chopper
2 years ago

Hey ncalsurfer - i'm rarely one to defend our "fine" elected officials, but the biggest problem w/ balancing the budget in Sacramento besides the stupid need for a super majority is all the spending requirements that voters have mandated via the ballot box. And while the parks funding piece was another example of this at least it was generating its own defined revenue stream outside the general fund.

dakota - you're right. it won't keep people out, but you can bet there will be a lot of tickets being issued at least initially to get the message across that closed is closed.

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