Frozen water and/or Ocean water

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Rant - Frozen water and/or Ocean water

Anyone here into frozen water as well as ocean water?

I still manage to surf 1-2x a week during the winter,
but I also try to get up on a mountain 1-2x a week.

I had 2 days last year where I feel I truly got my 'California' on by surfing turtle-mar in the morning and getting up to kirkwood for some afternoon snow on the same day.

Not sure why I did it, but I know I want to do that again some time.

I got the alpine/homewood pass for 2010/2011. you?

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tracey
1 year ago

I also dig the frozen stuff. Closest I got to a CA double was surfing till dark on a Friday then hitting Squaw just after opening. I mostly surf on weekday mornings so the Snow season doesn't cramp my Surf style too much. I've not yet migrated to the "rent a cabin for the season, buy a season pass" type lifestyle (I took a very long break from skiing and a challengingly long break from employment), but I expect to be up there a bit more this season.

tehdely
1 year ago

I skied for the first time this winter.

It was a lot quicker to pick up than surfing. Maybe I'll try it again.

tracey
1 year ago

You can also split the middle and go for kinda surf on freezing cold water:

cyclona23
1 year ago

that looks so unpleasant.

Fabrizio
1 year ago

Kirkwood represent!

Kooktastic
1 year ago

Re: Tahoe surfer. that dude's board must've gotten totally trashed.

deetr0n
1 year ago

Ca double. is that the official name @Tracey? Never knew what to call it.

@fab - is that you hucking down that fairly large cliff? :)

hurricanewe
1 year ago

Into it, but it's a real wallet breaker. I tend to go a couple times a year...

deetr0n
1 year ago

try slidingonthecheap.com and/or snowbomb.com for discounts.

Heavenly bought sierra and northstar this year and its $379 for a season pass to all 3 (with a few blacked out weekends). They are all nasty crowded on weekends but you cant beat that price. That pass pays for itself in 5 visits.

then again, surfing is free....

hurricanewe
1 year ago

Thanks for the price cutter link.

deciblast
1 year ago

Snowboarding is my love. I'm in between jobs so you'll find me there whenever it's good. Hit me up if you want to ride!

I purchased the double whammy limited season pass which is good at Sierra, Northstar, and Heavenly. Heavenly and Northstar open next weekend on the November 19th .

We're looking for people in my ski lease this season, message me if interested. $750 for 5 months, sleeps 17, pool table, hot tub, 4br/3ba.

sticker
1 year ago

@deetr0n, huge thanks for the heads up re: the Heavenly pass. Yeah, Flatstar gets shit crowded, but the Backside & Lookout remain pretty untouched by the kooks, and the tree skiing is pretty fun.

deetr0n
1 year ago

@deciblast - I just signed my lease in tahoe city/dollar point for the winter, but I'm happy to come play pool and shred powder most anytime. Sleeps 17? holy shit!

@sticker - i asked the guy from heavenly when the season pass price goes up and he said it'll stay there all season. The website says ~38 more days for the deal tho. Either way, lots of time

deciblast
1 year ago

@deetr0n Our guest fees are $25/night. I've been looking for a place nearby N* to stay too. If I knew anyone near Boreal, I'd already be up there!

Lookout mountain kills it on powder days.

Fabrizio
1 year ago

@deet: Yes! Kodak cliffs on lower cirque after a 3 foot dump. I get crazy when a camera is pointed at me :)

deetr0n
1 year ago

I'm not too far from northstar, closer to alpine/homewood. I will probably have a spare bed from time to time.

I've never hit lookout on a powder day. Good steeps?

Do you do any back country? I got my level 1 avalanche safety cert last year at kirkwood and made it out a few times around silver lake. Looking forward to checking out northlake back country, as all I've done up there so far is the sugar bowl gates that go down to donner lake.

Has anyone seen http://phresheez.com/ yet? Its a cool app that tracks you on the mountain with some cool summaries. They even gave me a slacker award for too many stops at the cave above timber creek at kirkwood.

It would be cool to do something similiar for surfing. Could probably get a nice wave count and recap of the currents that drag you in and out of lineups. Tho you'd need some waterproof gps / cellular action.

deetr0n
1 year ago

@fab - How was that landing ? :) We'll have to meet up and get a camera on you. Maybe find some sweet jumps Napolean Dynomite style. Lower cirque, awesome, did you hit it from the thunder saddle side or the wall side? I think I spent most of last winter in the sentinel bowl trying to land 540s. That and hiking out of the backside when kirkwood's generators went up in flames.

sticker
1 year ago

@deet, nah, no steeps at Flatstar, hence the nickname. But it's got the longest continuous (i.e., not steep, then flat, then steep) black runs of any of the North Lake resorts, unfortunately, the blacks are blues at most other mountains.

For some absolute ridiculously fun times in North Lake, you gotta check out Mt Rose. They opened up a whole side of the mountain a few years back called The Chutes. All black & double black chutes. The mountain itself is the complete antithesis of Squaw--blue jeans and beer in plastic cups plus tailgating mountain-side... Ride right off the mountain on to the hood of your car if you want.

deetr0n
1 year ago

I'm hip to the chutes ! Antithesis of squaw is a great analogy. Besides, the Reno masses at mt Rose are far more palatable. Sounds like you're well versed in north lake. This is my first season up north other than day/weekend trips in the past. I doubt it will be the last. So many options up there.

I think kirkwood has some of the gnarliest double blacks I've seen in tahoe. When I look at spots like the 'heart' chute and compare it to anything in mott/killebrew, it does seem like apples to oranges.

deciblast
1 year ago

I think Snowbird has the gnarliest double blacks lol. I'm afraid of heights when I get off the tram there.

@deetr0n: It's fun on a powder day since it's usually empty, but I'm by no means a N* diehard. My favorite spots are at Sierra/Heavenly: Avalanche Bowl, Huckleberry Canyon, Jacks Bowl, Motts Canyon, Killebrew, Firebreak, Raley's Bowl, North Bowl, etc.

I took the level 1 at LTCC last year but I don't any of the gear yet. I need a transceiver, probe, shovel, and snow shoes. I'm trying to build a video kit right now so I'm picking up a fluid head, tripod, and nd filter. I'm going to build a handle rig for follow and run and gun shots too.

deetr0n
1 year ago

Firebreak is soooo fun. been wanting to hit the palisades there too. Killebrew has been epic and worth the crawl out at the bottom every time!

Nice on the level 1. You can rent alot of that stuff until you want to buy. I've opted for bootpack or splitboards depending on the hike requirements. Snowshoes are fun until you get a crampon to the head after botching a landing unless you have proper storage for it.

Video kit? awesome. I'm bringing my gopro HD up. That's all I really have ;)

uuilly
1 year ago

@deetrOn I exclusively ski backcountry and have my avy 1. In the winter I spend a lot of time on the south west shore of Tahoe and in the spring I go to the Eastern Sierra. The east side has some of the best BC skiing in the world. You can ski from 14k feet all the way to the desert where you drink beer in shorts. The catch is you have to climb about 6k feet per day to do so.

Here are some propaganda shots, for the east side stuff look at Feather, Humphreys, Basin, Dana Plateau, Johnson and Hurd.
http://picasaweb.google.com/willy.pell

I also highly recommend the book "Backcountry Skiing California's Eastern Sierra." It has great photographs that will inspire you to do tiring things.

Chadical
1 year ago

+1 on the Chutes and Mt Rose. But don't tell anyone, it'll be our little secret. Actually, tell everyone you know, no one from the Bay Area ever bothers to make the trek. Ski the chutes until your legs stop working, then have some banquet beer in the parking lot

Chadical
1 year ago

Oh, and I did the Cali double once as well, though I did it the other way. Skied until 1 or 2 PM on a Sunday and got back to OB by 6pm for a sundowner. Only works in the spring, however, when the days get a bit longer.

chezwhitey
1 year ago

+many for the Mt. Rose chutes. I lapped them exclusively one February day in '09. I enjoyed that they were not terribly narrow or danger-lined, unlike steeps elsewhere.

sticker
1 year ago

Oh man, @whitey, those pics bring back such good memories. Particularly memories of me rolling uncontrollably down the chutes.

Scotch-Brite
1 year ago

Nothing beats a good powder day for me. I try to chase as many storms up as I can. I get the Double Whammy and try to log in 20+ days on the mountain. I'd like everyone to keep the thinking that Northstar is flat and it is no fun on a powder day. The truth is you can find great runs on every mountain in Tahoe. I'd like to respectfully ask that no one calls out the powder stash by name. It's like calling out Slaot on your Stoke Report!
PRAY for SNOW

Kooktastic
1 year ago

Re: rolling uncontrollably down chutes: I grew up in the R0ckies (Wyoming/Colorado) and am used to that fine light dry snow so the first time I skied in California @ Mammoth, it was a shock. Mammoth had been closed for a number of days due to high winds and the exposed areas had all the loose snow blown off them - you could see blue ice in some areas - not too skiable. Was riding up chair 23 and watched the first batch of skiers try the chute right below the lift. None of them made it more than 2 turns before they ate shit on the ice and did the yard sale all the way down the mountain at 50mph. Six guys in a row tried it and six guys in a row did the 1000 ft. tumble. I was aghast, but we just went over to the bowls and there was some snow/grip there. Never did figure out how those guys got their gear back. Also didn't see anyone else try it for the rest of the weekend.

In an incident I didn't see someone died on one of the chutes on the south side.

Definitely some different stuff. In Colorado, the main thing the advanced skiers hit were mogul runs. The area I grew up skiing (Steamboat) only had one chute. We stuck to the bumps. Out here the snow conditions (way too heavy) and the terrain has me out of my element.

tracey
1 year ago

Only skiied North Star once. It was pretty crowded, but I had a good timr. From the comments in this thread it's kinda sounding like the Linda Mar of Tahoe. Much loved by the lovers, much hated by the haters.

sticker
1 year ago

I actually think that's a pretty good analogy, @tracey. If you know the spot, you can score, but most folks pooh-pooh it b/c they haven't spent enough time there. Of course, the funny thing is I'm one of the biggest Lindy pooh-pooh'ers.

obsfobsf
1 year ago

@deetr0n
what are talking about surfing is free? Its not @ob, one has to pay the price to surf the good days.

BTW isnt this a surfing rant to?

hasbro
1 year ago

SlopeReport

deetr0n
1 year ago

@ob - I feel this rant can be about both. You're right about cost, but I was being literal about money.

new wetsuit - $300
used surfboard on craigslist - $300
cover charge to location turtle at ob - blood or first born.
50 duck dives and 3 trips down the toilet.... priceless

@hasbro +1

@uuily - Do you own those sleds? :) Great pix. I have been too distracted in the past to take alot of pix on touring sessions. Hoping to change that this year

@scotch - is that you doing that very nice method grab?

@tracey - +1, but if n* is linda mar, where can I find a chalupa??

@kook - dont give up on tahoe! When the winds are calm enough for snow to actually land and settle, our powder tends to be heavy, but still very ridable.

Scotch-Brite
1 year ago

@deetrOn - I was the photographer on that one. Sick knee to thigh deep blue bird powder day last March at an undisclosed stash. 20 minute hike from lift access. First group down.

@kooktastic - I worked Mammoth for two seasons back in the day. One season I bused tables on the sun deck of the mid ######. We used to love to watch the tourons slide down chair 23. I did it myself one day. Never found one my poles, season pass, of sunglasses.

Boarding/ Skiing can be relatively cheap if you do it right. Ski lease, season pass, carpool, and pasta.

@Tracey - agreed that Northstar is the LM of Tahoe. If you show up at 11 on Saturday expect there to be a few people in the line (up)

deciblast
1 year ago

We need a slopereport.. make it happen!

tedm315
1 year ago

I'm serious about both sports and for me surfing actually costs more! One surf trip to the tropics easily costs more than a season pass/condo lease combo.

As for Northstar... it doesn't have the steeps like Kirkwood, Squaw, or Alpine, but it's park and pipe scene are world class. Lots of pros ride Northstar, guys like Shaun White have competed there, and Northstar is featured in plenty of videos and magazine shots. Many of the features in the park (not to mention the 20' pipe) require riders with serious skill. Yes, it's crowded, but the snowboarders there are far from kooks (no comment on the skiers).

In my opinion Heavenly is the Linda Mar of Tahoe.

deetr0n
1 year ago

Good point on heavenly. That place is horrible on a saturday but nice on a wednesday.
Good point on the parks too. N* has the stash, which I have not yet had the pleasure of checking out.
I do however like the space between jumps in the parks. it's nice to have the option of taking one at a time.

deirfinn
1 year ago

Surf or Die ;-)

uuilly
1 year ago

@deetr0n not my sleds. My friend in Truckee owns them. I never liked the idea of snow mobiles and then I tried them and hated them more. It's called Snow-mo-digging b/c you spend the whole time digging the thing out of a ditch. I don't like the noise or the smell. It's also really hard and dangerous to access steep, exposed terrain. Every time I got off it I was like, "Thank god for the relative safety of a rock lined 45 degree chute." People do incredible things on snow machines but I think it's better as a sport unto itself. Skiers have fantasies about easy powder on snow machines and it's a myth in my opinion. You're very limited in where you can go, how many people can go and then someone has to run shuttle. Unless you have two sledders and two skiers you have to leave someone alone which is bad for avy safety. It's something everyone should try once, but I'm not going again.

SRFNSNW
1 year ago

Bend riding for 20+ years. The last 10 at kirkwood which will continue this season. Would definitely be game for sharing a ride to Kwood mid week. I am recently unemployed so have ample time on my hands. Unfortunately, I snowboard a lot better than I surf, but love both. Hoping to balance the two out now that the man isn't cramping my game.

deetr0n
1 year ago

@uuilly - that sounds sketchy as hell. cool story tho :). Did you get a chance to check out the new teton movie 'deeper' by truckee local jeremy jones? It's entirely about earning your turns to the n'th degree in places that sleds and heli's cant generally get to. Not the first time its been done, but first i've seen a whole movie devoted to split boards, kick turns, crampons and ice picks.

Have you ever done any of the high/haute routes? sierras or EU or anywhere?

@SRFNSNW - keep the man out of your game ! I'm in the same boat re: surf vs snow skills. Good luck on the balancing act.

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