Should I print this article from Surfer mag and post it around Linda Mar?
I understand this is a beginners place but I think that even beginners should learn some of the basic surf rules...
does anyone else think that this article is just a little excessive?
I mean, if this was a list of "annoying things that happen in the lineup", I think it'd be spot on. I hate 'lineup magnets' or the people who paddle for every wave as much as the next guy. But I don't think the 'see something, say something' philosophy advocated here is something I necessary agree with. I often trade surfing better, more crowded waves for surfing worse waves by myself, and so i'd think it odd if someone else came over and sat right on me out at OB or something. But telling them to move on just seems like it would breed resentment. Part of the reason there's so much tension in the water nowadays is because some people think they own the waves and so can control what other people do in the ocean. I completely get saying something, even being overly harsh, to people who are being unsafe, but just sitting near your peak or kicking or paddling for every wave but not cutting anyone off doesn't seem like it's worth causing bad blood.
Part of the problem, too, is that a lot of these aren't well-established surfing rules. If someone drops in on someone else, 99.9% of surfers could look at a tape of that and would agree, yeah, there was a rule broken there. But "the shadow"? Annoying, sure, and some surfers would say that some kind of rule (maybe an unwritten rule or just a breach of etiquette) was broken, but I bet an equal amount of surfers would say that there's nothing "wrong" that happened there. Maybe the shadow surfer liked the look of that peak better... you can't prevent a fellow surfer from paddling to the peak s/he thinks looks the best to them or is the best for their ability, or skill set, or whatever. If you could just tell people to move on when they sat on your peak, the first person out at every spot would just tell everyone to move on all day and have it to themselves. This doesn't seem right to me, seems like telling people off for breaking unwritten rules that only some people agree with or even know about is just asking for trouble.
real surfers can't read.
I liked the article (most of it was good). Too bad the people that need to follow these rules don't give a shit.
Well said, cheeseburger. Didn't need to read the article after your comment, plus the term "managing a lineup" sort of repulsed me. Sounds too much like an affliction, or corporate-speak at a PR firm. I can't really say I've ever thought about lineup management before. Lord help me if I do...it would be time to quit surfing. Say, how about those fun tiny peelers this morning?
It is excessive. Also, the point on beachbreak peaks is stupid, cause not all sandbars are created equal. Some are better then others. the better ones get more crowded, so if you wanna catch the best waves you sit in the crowd, if you'd rather catch not as nice waves and not hassle with the crowds then you go to the not as bad bar which will just have a couple surfers, thus breaking the shadow rule. The bars with no one on them probably suck. On a half decent day all the good bars will probably have someone on it, unless your in some secret spot or hard access spot. And on top of it, I surf to relax and feel good. Bitching at other surfers and managing other surfers will just make me feel bad. No joy in it.
Who the fuck is this Justin Housman douchebag to tell anybody how the fuck they should behave in the ocean? This article is the epitome of why surf publications don't deserve any respect, bunch of opinions from amateurs trying to tell everyone else what they should do, save the lecture for your home fuckface.
hes a self satisfied bitch who loves the smell of his own farts latarian. that's who. you tell him. he probably didn't even go to high school here.
Really, you're going to track how a guy paddles into the lineup? At OB moot point except for a few rare waves. The hassle factors of guys paddling for your wave is real, because you don't know if the bitches are going all the way. If they're going when I get up to them I yell. Not being a wave hog is huge, especially for guys who also like to set up near you. If you wan't to be a wave snake go to Santa Cruz. That assumes I (or whoever) catch the wave I/they paddle for.
Can't say how many times I've found a peak to myself (or one buddy) only to get an insta-pack after we pick off some waves. North parking lot or some of the other obvious lineups OK. When there are other choices (and really, when aren't there?) Strongly agree that one or two people catching waves doesn't mean you should divide that peak pie further. But just like drivers tend to cluster up, there are plenty of sheeple surfers.
He said managing, like I work for him. HA!