My bad. No, wait! Your bad!

By the sick picture you drawn,I think you did the right thing, next time pop a Ollie over the fool:)

Always the surfer riding wave has right-of-way.Don't paddle in someone way and don't sit in the way.You would be OK to run either over,( as long as you attempted to avoid a collision)First rule is paddler needs to avoid surfer and take the wave on the head( paddle to white-water and give rider the right-of-way.)

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I hope your board is okay. I don't get annoyed to easily but people sitting on the inside like buoys that don't get out of the way and then give you a blank stare like nothing happened drives me nuts.

I like to spear fools.

That's happened a bunch to me... I think they get like a deer in headlights and freeze. Or he was just being an ass.

if youre on the wave youre moving 10x 20x faster than the paddler therefore its the obligation of the surfer not to hit the paddler.

Nothing worse than having a good wave ruined by the "clueless buoy syndrome".

There is no reason to run someone over, period. That being said, don't linger in the zone and fuck up the rotation.

@ fullybrah- that Lobster fist you posted was priceless. thank you. that shit made me laugh beyond belief.
cheers brah

Yeah no need to run people over! Just spray them in the face,duh!

This should be posted full-time. (Well, first a decent graphic designer should re-do it, but then, it should be posted full-time.)

1. It's A's wave. The only way B should drop in is with permission.

2. It's A's wave and if B drops in, B deserves a verbal thrashing.

3. It's A's wave, but it's ok if B drops in, as long as B doesn't interfere with A, or try to call him/her off. (Which B usually does because B is a dick.)

4. Same as 3.

5. Same as 3/4, but this looks like a lower-stress situation.

6. WTF is going on here? Is A paddling out? Ripping a hard bottom turn? So far behind the foam that B doesn't see him/her? Comedy is about to ensue.

7. Uh, ok.

8. I think this one refers to Salty's situation. Remember kids: Jesus Says: Paddle Around The Break.

9. Yay!

10. B can call A off, but B best make it. If B blows this deal once, A has the right to ignore him/her the second time.

11. Yay!

12. Welcome to Thunderdome. TWO MEN ENTER. ONE MAN LEAVE.

13. Paddle faster, B, you freakin' dick. (Unless you're taking a picture of my too-pretty self, in which case, remember to get my good side.)

You shouldn't be surfing near people if you don't know the rules (fullybra) please google surf ediqutte and read up!

I just try avoid surfing with B altogether. Won't even give him a call anymore.

no shame in learning....

He probably wasn't sure which way you were going to go. I learned it's always the guy up and riding's responsibility to avoid the collision. The paddler should always go towards whitewash but sometimes you just get stuck in a bad spot. I just kick out if there is no avoiding hitting someone. Shit happens though, just apologize and forget about it.

marklar surf this! i know etiquette. I am talking about when youre paddling out or back into the lineup after a wave. its impossible to get completely out of the way in some instances. that said dont paddle right in to the meaty section of someones wave. ill take a wave to the head rather than blow it for somebody. that said if its crowded there will inevitably be paddlers in the water. If a guy drops in on a wave an tags someone its often his fault. its akin to the uphill right of way on the road. for # 13 salty thats the instance i tohught you were talking about and its got a lot of grey area. its lame when ppl just sit there. often its hard for them to know if youre gonna to stay high on the wave or drop below them. its an intuition thing i think. i try to make eye contact with the paddler so he or she knows what im going to do. i like the graphic and have been in every one of these situations many times. for 13 i am sometimes guilty of being a slow pedestrian in the intersection but ill paddle harder next time!

Fullybrah.......you don't paddle out....you go left or right after your wave is done and clear out of the path others are riding in on. That is surfing 101. Most people are lazy and/or can't kick it so they try to make it back to the peak before it breaks again being lazy or dumb. It's fine if it works out but you usually get in people's way and you will get run over eventually if you keep following that system. Be safe!

Like this too √

Here's the entire picture with article from Longboard Magazine, 2005.

Pelicans!

jiminy christmas

@waveglider: can't stay away? ;) <3 <3

you dont paddle out? uh yes you do. unless you have a jetski to tow you out. when your off the wave you ridden the length of the shoulder and you paddle back out unless there's a channel and then you paddle back out in that. you dont paddle out and the opposite angle of the wave you just rode. that would be lame.

That cartoon wave is at least 18 feet. If I'm the cartoon dude paddling out, there's no way i'm taking that lip on the head.

Fullybrah it's obvious you need to go back to school. The idea is that when your ride is done you have either gone right or left of the place you took off. This place is often referred to as the peak and can vary in width/size. Some spots like points will be tighter whereas beach breaks can have peaks spread out and they will shift. It's usually where the pack hangs out waiting for a wave. Some people wait on the inside or outside of this area too which makes it even more confusing for some. When a ride is complete or in your case and mine sometimes you fall off your board.....it's your responsibility to get the F out the way and paddle right or left depending what side of the peak you are now on. Swing out wide and join the pack again. Congratulations you have now saved yourself and others from getting cut or dinged!! You may be a little more tired at this point so hang out and let others grab waves while you regain your breath. All is stoked and Safety is Cool!! Hope you get some good ones out there!

Rocco its obvious you need some reading comprehension schooling. If you drop straight dont the wave like a barney then you need to swing around. if youve ridden the wave as far as there is a should you really dont need to swing around as much. anyhow i think its all good in the water as long as the speedbumps stay away from me!!! safety third.

According to your early comment you somehow end up in the way. How is that possible??? Here is what you wrote.............. " I am talking about when youre paddling out or back into the lineup after a wave. its impossible to get completely out of the way in some instances. that said dont paddle right in to the meaty section of someones wave. ill take a wave to the head rather than blow it for somebody." Eat your own words buddy and get outta the way by paddling right or left! get it?????

Wow

no i dont get it. oh well. no big deal.

Since I'm pretty sure I'm the guy you're referring to as just sitting there, I have to agree with fullybrah's first comment and fishyfish's comment. It wasn't obvious which direction you were going, or else I would have paddled behind. And because you seem to be so bothered by it, it'll probably make you feel better to know that your fin gashed my board, and I have to get it repaired.

It's okay fullybrah....it's okay. Stay golden Pony Boy........

My question: why deal with this shit on a website? Work it out on the parking lot and not from mom's basement. I'm not kidding. If you have conflict, make sure it isn't a shower argument here. This should be common sense. Take your lumps, be a man right then and there. You act like a clueless buoy then fine, you are one and fess up to it right then and there. You act like a freak whom can't control their board, then fess up to it right then and there. Don't come on here and hum and haw and sour grapes shower argument. It's pitiful.
At Linda Mar, I fucked this dudes board up and right there in the parking lot, I gave him 60 bucks, shook his hand, and said see you out there again, and shit was square.

I have to reiterate my position by DJ'ing again.

piss = knowledge.

I learned awhile back that if I stare at the deer in the headlights, then I typically will hit them. But, if I just look where I wanna go just as I would if I were surfing the wave and not worrying about the obstacle, I do just fine. This works for r0ckz as well. Up in Sonoma County there are some nice spots that helped me hone that skill on a regular basis.

I've also heard it called 'object fixation' (you will go where you look). I learned about this motorcycle racing & skiing / boarding in trees. To give concrete examples: don't look at the tree, because then you will hit it. Look at the spaces BETWEEN the trees & that's where you'll go. As friscohio says, this applies in surfing. Though it's hard in the moment, try not to look at the surfer who's in your way, but look to one side (where you want to go) and you're much more likely not to hit them.

Also - agree with Piss. Try to deal with it in the moment if possible.

@salty dog, the guidelines of your drawings and the pictures from Cazart are totally cool. And very helpful to other begginers. You are doing the right thing. And it's good that you didn't bother to get pissed off. Since it's was very small day and it's summer time. :) On a really good day, yes you would say something about it. But don't bother to make it a fight, an argument or what not. Just say "dude I'm not going to yell at you, but..." And hopefully the surfer understands. If that surfer is being a dick to you. Just keep on surfing and remember that face next time in the line up. To understand how to avoid that surfer in surfing etc etc. Thanks everyone for sharing this. mahalo

Who's the kook?....flip a coin!

Nice example @Glider. Gotta go with "(c) all of the above" on that one

As already exhibited by the guy who caught the wave, he's capable of turning his board. Although he is just getting up to speed on the wave, still, he could have:

1. Stalled on the tail, thus avoiding running over the guy at full speed.
2. Cut/turn the board right and avoid the collision.
3. And this is the one that would seem to be the most popular action on this site; run him over, then give him a beat down claiming territorial rights and calling him all sorts of names, as seems to have been demonstrated by OLB and a few others at LM.

But I digress, I don't even surf.

nobody wins....

I'd say the safest move he could have made was turn LEFT behind the guy (while reminding him he's a kook for being where he is) then turn right back up the face of the wave to continue his ride. Clean, nice wave, plenty of speed, no excuse for surfer to hit paddler but paddler should have been digging hard to get out of the way...

@Squid Lips, pretty much agree with you on that. As one can see the paddler is not making much effort for going anywhere.

I wonder what the exchange was after the collision?

the guy on the long board is a kook but the short boarder is a dick and takes the blame for this one. he only has one gaper to dodge as opposed to 15 which is what we all face out here constantly. he had plenty of options all good lines instead he fucked up.