OB RIVERA

probably shouldn't blow it up, but OK, I like it.

Great? Place and time. WTF? Please don't do this.

Once again, why is it necessary to do this?

Please just go surfing, or at the very least be vague in your details.

The Beard

@Beard, until someone invents a time machine I don't think there is a big concern here.

that wave looks way too crowded. looks too many people are going back in time to surf these days.

Me and Vague Vicuna agree with the Beard. Less is more.

Curious why the censor didn't pick this up. Shouldn't there be ##### where the title is? Just name the rant SFOB and I think that would appease Vague Vicuña and the other memes. Except maybe Pachecrow.

Yea, it should. I'll fix it out soon.

why take a dump in your own bathtub? lame-o

here. .

oh no - everyone might flock to #### because someone posted the street name! Seriously, given the length of OB, the # of streets along it, the various webcams, the limited perusing of this website, and the fact there's a massive ball of white water out back of said wave - how many people who aren't already on it going to paddle out and hit it!?!

No cameras at the beach! I'm going into Wise, Nori Pizza, and Aqua and tearing down all OB pics.

If you take down oh bee-kay see cam, I won't need the internet anymore.

Man, some people on here getting all touchy about a street mention on desolate, wide-open and shifty OB... and over a picture taken several days ago, no less. If these kind of posts get negative or "controversial" reviews, I am beginning to question the meaning of this whole forum. It seems like some people are on here just to hate & shoot others down - or to post some BS that has nothing to do with surfing. Isn't sharing experiences, surf pictures and, sometimes, locations (God forbid!) the whole point of StokeReport?

It's just protocol.
Look, what did Rip Curl do?
SOMEWHERE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
They didn't say exactly where it was, probably to perpetuate the mystique and perception of 'not blowing it up'.
It's just protocol. You got guys here that have been surfing the beach since the late 80's. That's the protocol they want, that's the protocol they get.
I'd like to reiterate that I appreciate the pictures and like them.

kind of a bummer that you post such a sweet pic and all it does is invite a bitch fest. glad rip curl did their market research to be sensitive to the sf locals. i thought protocol is after the fact you can be more specific. i was telling a friend that i occasionally post to this site and he was surprised. apparently he thought you had to know a bunch of protocol and cultural references and have been surfing here since the 80's in order to not be shut down here. Ha.

haha no one is shutting anyone down, just pointing out that we don't specify the exact location at SFOB, is all.
Sometimes we talk about Canada and Mexico though :) heh.

Holy fuck, this entire thread is a fail, although @juditah's last comments were epic... Very Bad Vibes Hal'esque.

most of the guys surfing the beach are from...SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Swarm Barneys, SWARM!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone left the barn door open that's fur sure :)

I surfed about 10:30 to 3:30 on Sunday. The visual aspects of that day were phenomenal. So many variations of light and texture, in the water and in the sky. I just loved it, can't stop thinking about it. These are some cool shots.

All of the negative banter still doesn't address why it is that some feel it necessary to post where you surf and when. This issue has been gone over repeatedly on this site, with the general consensus being that best practice is to remain vague when describing actual locations at Ocean Beach. Once again, why is this so difficult to do?

Believe it or not, some of us did grow up surfing here, and for what it is worth a very simple request has been asked of this community. Just go surfing, write about all of your stoke if need be, but keep the details vague.

Thanks and Happy Holidays to you and yours.

- The Beard

Right on Juditah. I'm with ya, bro.

Damn. Check out this killer wave at V F W! For those of you with a time machine, I took this picture at exactly 11:42.25am on January 15, 2011. If you walk down the third staircase from the left and go straight out you might be able to catch one of these two shoulders and no one would be on it!!! Get Stoked!

FYI, I'm a Bay Area native and grew up surfing here too - unlike a lot of the people who now call this place home... And I've never been one of those who has a problem with mentioning a vague or already 'blown up' location once in a while.. I think it's ridiculous to jump all over someone for mentioning a spot long after conditions have changed - just my opinion. But go ahead & give this post more thumbs down. Keep it up, haters.

Well guys and gals, I side with the beard on this one. Sharing the stoke is great. Sharing the exact location of your session with real time reports, or near real time reports, or photos/google maps, or other data is unnecessary. The reality is many Ocean Beach regulars do not appreciate the Stokereport for a number of reasons. The other reality is that we share the ocean with these regulars. Respect one's neighbors is what I always strive for. When a request for "no exact location, please" is repeated constantly, one should heed the requests of one's neighbors. When you request something of me, I listen and try to accomodate. Hopefully others can do the same. Thanks for coming out. Happy Turkey.

Given that it takes as long for a sandbar to shift at OB as it takes Rebecca Black to decide what seat to take on Fridays, there is absolutely no reason to worry about specific street names being mentioned here. It would be like the Secret Service not wanting to disclose that Barack Obama was in in New York two weeks ago.

The OB regulars that do not appreciate stoke report do so because the love to hate it. Let's face it: calling someone out for naming a surf spot makes you feel good about being a local. People don't do it out of a legitimate fear that their 'street' will be overrun with barneys. If the idea that scores of other surfers are frothing to surf your spot pending locals' approval, move to PV. Otherwise, cut the shit.

Here's the deal people: If you post a picture with a label saying "this spot, this time, going off" it simply attracts attention to the fact that that spot goes off sometimes. There are a lot of sheeple out there, and on this site in particular, who only surf where there is a parking lot, or a shower, or some bros to bro down with, or who have a bro with a gopro who want to get a sick pic. This is fact. By posting a pic of an amazing wave and saying this is at spot x, you are attracting the sheeple to that spot. This is a problem for the people who live there, surf there, have put in the time to know when and where that sand bar fires, and all of a sudden a BarnSwarm arrives to crowd a magical moment they have put in a lot of hours to know would be happening. You may dismiss this as grumpy localism, but it is not. Bad Vibes Bob is grumpy BS localism. This is simply, "don't blow up my local spot and the time I have put in" on the internet. Enjoy it, get yours, share your stoke, but don't broadcast the location to millions on the internet that "this spot gets this good!!!!" It's simple really. Keep it vague, keep the mystery, earn your turns. Otherwise, next time you are out and score the day of the year at that spot you have been learning, observing, and waiting for, you might be BarnSwarmed by a dozen kooks with gopros documenting every buttwaggle and headdip, and you will have no one but yourself to blame. Cheers, BarnSwarm

The deal is, this is the internet. Sadly, you can establish all the protocol you like, but as long as this site is free and open to join there is always going to be a combination of people who, a) Dont give a crap about protocol, b) Are just new and don't know.

Trying to police every post that steps over the line blows it up more, nearly 40 posts on this now.

Can I get an amen?

BarnSwarm, I think we all get it. If a certain spot is kick'n it, then we shouldn't share the location on the same day as it may result in others going there and ruining "a local's" session. While I still don't personally think anyone has ever made their decision to surf a particular location based on these reports, I think we all agree to follow your rule.

But sharing the stoke from days/weeks/years ago should not bother anyone. This is not a reef break and it changes by the hour. If someone's pic from a week ago bothers you, please, for god sakes, give us a GOOD reason why. I'd love to hear it... Really.

please re read my post. "###### goes off! i will check it rather than ###### or ###### next time." If you guys can't get this, you just don't and maybe never will. Check out surfline. Their "surfmaps" section names every spot in California. Now check the surfmaps for Kauai. No info. You think that is because Kauai sucks? No. They respect the locals there and dare not expose the spots there. The people who have been surfing the Beach for years simply ask that you guys give them the same respect. Is that too much to ask? Maybe it is. Just don't shit where you eat. That is all I am saying. Give me the thumbs down, grab your gopro, call your bros, and clog it up. God save us all. Soul may be lost, but at least you can post your headdip for all to see. Cheers.

hawaii this is not. the land here was stolen from the indigina's by the spaniards then it became mexico then it was stolen by american dudes with names like commodore###### (ha !it'd be hard to teach history with this sensor thing on) and richardhenrydana. Liliʻuokalani's hawaii was jacked in a much more imperialist fashion by the dole corporation in cohoots with the us secretary of war. difference is the locals have much more of a collective memory of said jacking and thats why you listen to local protocol out there if you know what's good for you. in summation vaguereport policing seems kinda attention whorey, ireally dont think it affects crowd one way or the other.how hard is is to drive down the aves anyhow to find the best spot? big deal!!! i heard ###### was firing last weekend btw so me and forty of my bros are gonna stop by starbucks with gmac in our monster trucks and well be there for dawn patrol!

@BarnSwarm, check your most recent surf report and tell me you're not blowing up a spot... "Great", "fantastic", "all-time" surf at OB mid-zone where you saw a pro. You don't need to be a PI to figure out where you were. Get off your high horse.

And not trying to be attacky, but @PissShiver... who do you think attracts more people to OB -- almost daily surf reports in general by you or just one set of specific pics for a pinpointed location by Juditah?

just saying, "he who lives in a glass house..."

+ 1 @dude, people who report everyday from multiple locations( sfob-smot) dont want kooks out there, so why the eff do you report ? if you dont want people on the beach why report thing as "great" ??
and why get all pissy for a pic of the PAST ?? and its not like SFOB has secret sandbars, you just drive and see them, no secrets streets here, just BS

Okay, I think this rant has finally reached the level of diminished returns.

Save some, everyone, for next month's version.

@dude..."attacky"?!...tacky.

I'm saving some for this turkey that I'm basting right now, not next month's localism thread :D

lindamar a few days ago. get out there & blow it up people, before the lot's full.