RE: Discussion on 10 ft faces at OB on Sunday

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Rant - RE: Discussion on 10 ft faces at OB on Sunday

(First of all, negative karma preventing me from commenting in Sandcastle's post, so I am ranting).

The offshore buoys frequently show "different" conditions than you might see at the beach. The complex shoaling and refraction of the waves around the SF ebb bar can create wave caustics (crossings) that make our spot so famous. For instance a northwest swell will travel straight across the bar in some places, but further to the south it will bend around the bar so it is propagating from the southwest. So the caustic effects and the refraction and shoaling processes can really jack up the surf as compared to measurements at the buoy. This is especially evident with the long period swells. Throw in another 15 s swell from the south and you have some very complex but interesting stuff going on! Take a look at the image from CDIP for Sunday afternoon that shows how the ebb bar causes the waves to be so much bigger than they are offshore.

But yeah...still not convinced it was 10 ft!!

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JLW
32 weeks ago

It wasn't ten foot.

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

size arguments: the next localism. Click on the ads!

Manuel Noriega
32 weeks ago

The height of Sarah Jessica Parkers face is taller than the waves this last weekend.

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

Some haiku for you:
Sara Jessica
Face protects the body well
No one dares go there

fatnewt
32 weeks ago

unfocused
32 weeks ago

Parachute fall at the end was epic

Tenderloin tom
32 weeks ago

Where's surfer gurrrrrl and kilpatrick?

Tenderloin tom
32 weeks ago

Apparently at M0ntar4

Righteousdewd
32 weeks ago

Swell height does not equal face height.

There were 10 foot faces. NOT 10 foot swell.

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

I'm a bit of an expert on, ten foot...my house' ceilings, ten foot. Surfboard, ten foot. Top of monster truck cab, ten foot. I live in a world of, ten foot. I promise to let you know when it's, ten foot.

sandcastle
32 weeks ago

It was ten feet.

keels
32 weeks ago

I was out Sunday and Monday, and both days I surfed the same place, with only a small handful of others. The current made it hard to line up, but every half hour or so, a very sold set would come rolling through. I saw a number of very solidly overhead waves go unridden, beautiful peaks. I'm not throwing out the "ten" word, but surprising solid, and definitely overhead, on a day that was really only 3-5'. And I'm not telling where it was. pbbbth.

kookreport
32 weeks ago

You have got to be kidding me. It was not ten foot.

Mujeriegringro
32 weeks ago

you guise where are the secret peeks? Just moved here from LA LoL!! Me and my brows carpooled to the beach this weekend and had lots of fun but it was heavy epic- 10ft++, the crowd here is so nice, everyone is just so nice.

See you dudes out there!!

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

Hey Mujeriegringo, I just voted you back into posi-land. Neg voting is no way to treat a new gal in town. Right? And we ARE nice up here...at least I am. But to answer your question...unlike down LA way where they long ago abandoned any notion of a secret peak, we here in SF still cherish the idea of it. Because you're new here and I like you I'm going to tell you where the secret sick peaks are. When you're driving down the highway and you see a decent peak with no one on it, that's it, you've found it, just don't tell anyone else. Say, Mujerie, can I call you that? Curious about your name...like, you're not all like hairy or anything are you?...just wondering...nothing wrong with that.

caveman
32 weeks ago

It was 10 ft last Sunday (September 30). Definitely not 10 ft yesterday (October 7). We'll see what happens this Sunday (October 14). Because on any given Sunday you're gonna win or you're gonna lose. The point is - can you win or lose like a man?

sandcastle
32 weeks ago

Ahem. Get it down to single pixels and you will see the empirical evidence of my much maligned observation. Read 'em & weep, cowboys (and cowgirls). Muahahahaha!

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

I'M OUT I'M OUT I'M OUT

futuresparky
32 weeks ago

Time: Sunday
Place: everybody's crappy favorite Marin county break
Sets: 3 to 5 with occasional 7 to 8 foot sneaking through
Weather: beautiful
Waves: whee!!!

Eatnectar
32 weeks ago

They were twelve feet.

minyan
32 weeks ago

were there some wave faces that reached 120"? sure. was the surf 10'? no.

since when, in the history of surf lore, has anybody referred to the literal wave face height? follow the rituals of the tribe or be voted out... i think this topic predates localism. we've regressed.

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

how can I be out when there's weng weng? HOW

BDsurfer
32 weeks ago

Can someone repost that "Hawaii vs. Everyone Else" pic again?

Dorcas
32 weeks ago

For all of you who adamantly refute the claims that there were 10 foot waves coming through on Sunday might at least want to consider the fact that several people on here have independantly confirmed seeing waves of such a height. So do you think there is some conspiracy going on, or is it just a case of several people that have no clue about wave heights reporting the size? Are those of you that are certain that there were no 10 foot waves coming through the only ones that know how to judge wave heights? I was particularly swayed by Kook who not only called BS on there being any 10 foot waves, but assured us that it was not so by stating "Listen. I grew up at the beach, born and raised in SF, have never taken a month off surfing since I first got in the water and surfed the biggest part of the beach all day Saturday and Sunday." First off, mad props, that is so awesome, you must be super hardcore, but also wondering how you could have known that you were at the biggest spot on the beach all day, if you were at the same spot on the beach all day. Also wondering what your training secret is that allowed you to stay at the same spot on the beach for two days straight, because where I was both days the current was running so strong that nobody I encountered seemed to have the arms to stay on the same peak (or even the same block), for any length of time.

sandcastle
32 weeks ago

Ten. Just saying. It was ten foot wave faces. That's what I am reporting. Multiple independent confirmations and a pictorial swell model to boot.

Wave Glider
32 weeks ago

@futuresparky, if it's the place I frequent in Marin, then what do you measure wave height by? Here's the report from the guys at the Shop for Sunday:

Bolinas Surf Report
SUNDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2012
Daily Surf Report - 10/7/2012

ALRIIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTT...
Another beautiful morning here in Bolinas. The sun is shining and the ocean is glassy, air temp approximately 50 degrees. Some surf still hanging around and some folks taking advantage of it today. A lot of action going on in the city today, but it's a cool calm and far out morning here in Bo. Great day to cruise a longboard and to work on your skills for beginners. Radical

CHANNEL: Some waves breaking in the groin area, little reelers here and there. Seems to be in the knee to waist high range with about 15 surfers curlin' on longboards. Sometimes you ride the wave, and sometimes the wave rides you.

PATCH: Some pretty little lines flowing through here today, looks to be knee to waist with only several logjammers on it and an SUP. Grab the ol' hog and slide n glide till Karl Hungus fixes your cable.

surfermax
32 weeks ago

come on guys, who really gives a fuck

Jesse R.
32 weeks ago

@surfermax, +1000

hurricanewe
32 weeks ago

^ @Surfermax.

Squid Lips
32 weeks ago

Just an FYI (as I really don't give a fuck either) as I had a someone unique experience. Surfed a bunch last week and Saturday night my kids got the spontaneous double sleepover invitation to watch the Giants (ooooh nooooo....) and wifey and I went out pretty big and late. Passed on the planned Sunday am surf ('cause I knew I was set up for Monday surf) hung out in bed then wifey and I walked the beach before getting the kids- from Baja lot to Ke12y's and back- a ~7.5 mile stroll. OB offered a bit of everything Sunday late morning. Baja a LB wavepark, Norte some shorepoundy-poundy, way outsiders breaking occationally through the midsection, dead lull dry hair paddle out nothing spots, everything.... and there were rides and stoke all over the beach- from kooks to rippers, salvation was delivered.

And, YES, a few of those outside bombers, as infrequent as they were, were well enough overhead to call 10.

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

Yes, in the end, of course, no one in their right mind gives a fuck. The argument has been sustained since surfing began. It's almost as if it is a required discussion amongst surfers, but it DOES make for some fun commentary. Hats off to sandcastle for standing his ground...metaphorically speaking, no one is going to squash his sand castle! All the same, I leave you with a quote from Duckdive's wave info post, "surfers and boaters notoriously overestimate the waves they encounter."

unfocused
32 weeks ago

@sharkturd- as they do, the fish they catch.
@sandcastle- we still love you.
Now why isn't everybody surfing the two footers out there right now?

kookreport
32 weeks ago

@Dorcas... To answer your questions and I quote,

#1) "how you could have known that you were at the biggest spot on the beach all day, if you were at the same spot on the beach all day."

Answer: The bathymetry of OB creates the largest waves in one area. If you don't know where that is I won't tell you, but anyone who has surfed the beach for more than two weeks knows what im talking about it.

#2) "or is it just a case of several people that have no clue about wave heights reporting the size?"

Answer: You nailed it.

#3) Also wondering what your training secret is that allowed you to stay at the same spot on the beach for two days straight, because where I was both days the current was running so strong that nobody I encountered seemed to have the arms to stay on the same peak (or even the same block), for any length of time.

Answer: First, the biggest part of the beach stretches for more than a block...sooooo my argument still stands. Second, its called paddling, you should try it sometime. Third, as you so astutely pointed out, I am hardcore. Thanks for the recognition.

Righteousdewd
32 weeks ago

This is still here? Wow. This reminds me of holiday dinners with my mom's family. Everyone wants to be right more than they want to be happy. There is no prize for refuting something I saw, that was not seen by others.

I could tell you my johnson is 20 inches long. There is not evidence to back to up or disprove it. More to the point, who fucking cares?

kookreport
32 weeks ago

Listen. My Johnston is 20 inches long therefore your Johnston cannot be 20 inches long. I'll give you 10," but no ways is it 20".

shaqfu
32 weeks ago

I care. It's all about maintaining some integrity on this website. Just kidding... But it still wasn't ten feet.

drei
32 weeks ago

There is only one person that can settle this argument once and for all...

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

ace

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

Fek shay shay, we want the REAL surf conditions reporter....Patchecrow.

dsx2000
32 weeks ago

I think the biggest problem you all seem to have is that to one guy he is looking at a someones pinky finger and the same guy thinks its a 12" black cock.

i would venture to say that 75% of the trolls that post on here, couldnt tell a 5' set from a 10' set.

i was out sunday, in the crappy sloppy mushy crowded nonsense at the beach. occasionally, every 20-30 mins a 6'-8' wave would roll over the 2nd bar, mush out and back off. to alot of people those were 10' waves rolling through. In reality, they werent rideable waves, they were just cresting over on a shallower bar. since not a single person was dumb enough to sit outside its impossible to say it was 10'. in fact it wasnt 10' by any stretch of any persons imagination. to imply there were 10' sets, is stupid. These werent sets that anyone was riding. Thus since nobody was riding them, they werent really set waves.

Dorcas
32 weeks ago

Kook, been surfing OB for a long time and know the layout pretty well, though not nearly as inlclined to pat myself on the back as you are for knowing the secret of the ######, except for when the secret is the southern end of the beach or during certain times of the year when the secret is actually the ######. The bathymetry of OB that you speak of is only one variable in the equation. Furthermore the bathymetry is hardly static. It is strongly influenced by by tidal currents from the adjacent Golden Gate, as well as wave refraction around the ebb-tidal
delta and is constantly changing. Because there are so many variables at play including tides, currents, swell direction, season, etc., the entire system is way too dynamic to always create the largest waves in one area - well it may create the "largest" waves in one area at one time, but it doesn't always create the largest waves at the same one area - as you have suggested it does. In addition to being hardcore, an expert on bathymetry, and arguably the best paddler on the beach, you apparently also possess superhuman eyesight which allows you to accurately monitor wave heights throughout the "multiblock biggest stretch of the beach" from the water. The rest of us can only sit back in awe and hope to one day know even a fraction of your powers.

dao jones
32 weeks ago

10 foot OB is the new 1 foot Hawaiian....

kookreport
32 weeks ago

Listen Dork. We're talking fall surf in SF a few days ago and it was not ten foot.

Maybe I should specify further, but since you've been surfing the beach a whole year or two or years or some shit, I assumed you might know what I was talking about. Obviously we are not talking South swells ###### of summer. We're talking fall, NW swells and you know what part of the beach is the the biggest.

I will give you a little love though. Everything looks bigger when your a sponger since you never stand up.

OHHHHHH SNAP (drops mic)

unfocused
32 weeks ago

The Giants are on in 15 minutes

unfocused
32 weeks ago

@sancastle- thumbs up for not melting down. Id a been out! Out! Out!!

johnb
32 weeks ago

10 ft No

futuresparky
32 weeks ago

@waveglider - i'm not talking about bolinas. I said everybodys favorite "crappy" spot. I love the bo, but that's not where I was talking about! remember "stay stoked, stay vague!"

Wave Glider
32 weeks ago

@futuresparky, now worries. Now I just need to figure where you're referencing.

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

Looking so forward to this same discussion after the first truly mackin NW swell...orrrr, we could simply change the digits from ten to twenty and repost this same thread. That should leave everyone more time to concentrate on spot naming and localism rants. Hey, just tryin to be efficient.

CattyCait
32 weeks ago

49 comments?

Wave Glider
32 weeks ago

@sharkturd, I heartily concur with you. And unless there are pics to back it up, NO SOUP FOR YOU!

piss_shiver
32 weeks ago

what if you're post op?

Tenderloin tom
32 weeks ago

Giants win 2-1 in 10 innings

unfocused
32 weeks ago

Staying alive..................
btw, who the fuck is thumbin down the Tenderloin man???????????????????? kooks better watch out

Tenderloin tom
32 weeks ago

Must have been Reds fans ,at least the giants went the magic number "10" innings for us

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

Judges? (nods towards judge's box) "yes, we will accept ten innings in lieu of ten foot."

Okay, that's it, done with the ten thing! Think I'll take five now.

kookreport
32 weeks ago

In closing I would like to say...Fuck yes to getting thumbs downed on this site. I wear that shit like a badge of honor.

sharkturd
32 weeks ago

this is for Righteousdewd and kookreport.

unfocused
32 weeks ago

Thumbs up Kookreport

kookreport
32 weeks ago

Sharkturd wins. I defer to him from now on.

Tenderloin tom
32 weeks ago

Re newts comment, I went out at rockaway in March ,later in the day I saw on the news they found a foot (only one) the same day only hours after I was there,creepy.
http://pacifica.patch.com/articles/human-foot-washes-ashore-at-rockaway-...

Righteousdewd
32 weeks ago

Thanks turd! This works as a new measurement in reporting. Keeping it vague with "it was bigger than my johnson, but not bigger than me and....and my johnson."

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