Wave Hog?

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Rant - Wave Hog?

So, I checked out OB yesterday after work yesterday and it was messy so I made my way down to Linda Mar. Surprisingly found a really fun peak on the ######, WH-SH, fun peelers with a mix of local, good surfers, and some total kooks. Regular Linda Mar mix.....

After catching 7-8 waves, a total kook, came up to me and told me "hey, if your not a pro, don't hog the waves" Out of 10 or so people in the line up he was the only one that said something. Everyone else was getting waves, having fun, hooting and hollering . Now this is not the first time someone has told me that I am a little aggressive and catch a lot of waves (maybe too many), but what defines a wave hog? Should I be taking wave counts of everyone in the line up and if everyone has not caught the same amount of waves I should start giving them to the people that have a lower wave count than everyone else?

I never snake people, If someone is behind me , in the right position , I will always give them the wave. But, if I am a more experienced surfer, and am in the right position, and pay attention, and catch what I feel like is a fair amount of waves, am I a wave hog? Could you imagine sitting under the GG bridge and telling those guys, "Hey, you've caught too many waves, how about sharing?"

Surfing is an aggressive sport, you need to be on top of your game, pay attention, move around, get in the right position to catch the good waves. Otherwise you are just a buoy. Surfing is not a deli line, where you pull a number and then its your turn....

What defines a wave hog? 20 waves? 4 waves? Do you divide the amount of people times the total waves, and then distribute evenly? In a perfect world , maybe, but we all know that life is just not like that.

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fatnewt
29 weeks ago

Next time I see you I'll give you a buck to get hella radical, problem solved.

johnb
29 weeks ago

sounds like an angry Liberal wanting to take form you to give to others. When all they need to do is get better themselves.

Gander
29 weeks ago

I smell bacon!!! (if you have to ask...)

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@ fatnewt ...... huh? , @ Gander ... It's always people NOT getting waves that call people wave hogs.

wrybread
29 weeks ago

@johnb:

How come whenever someone says something inane like that there's always spelling mistakes, bad punctuation, and weird capitalization errors?

fishyfish
29 weeks ago

It's good karma to let a wave go every once in a while.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

Trust me! I let plenty of waves go! There was 10 people in the water, and everyone was getting waves. Sets come in 3, I cant catch all 3! He was just old, angry, and wanting to puff his chest up. He should learn how to surf..

fishyfish
29 weeks ago

Oh, i know the type. It's always the older, angry, longboard guy. Best advice is just to ignore those clowns.

hypno toad
29 weeks ago

That's LM for ya. One time I had someone yell at me because I was riding a WH wave and rather than paddle around me and take the whitewater they wanted me to end my ride so they could paddle out across the shoulder. Kooks galore out there.

jawkdna
29 weeks ago

" never snake people, If someone is behind me , in the right position , I will always give them the wave. But, if I am a more experienced surfer, and am in the right position, and pay attention, and catch what I feel like is a fair amount of waves"

You sound golden to me.

I mean are people expecting you to hand them waves...
waves are there for the taking (not stealing) if it's yours take it. With some communication of left and right calls their can even be some sharing.

"hey, if your not a pro, don't hog the waves"
The whiner needs to paddle harder and get those arms ready for winter...

sticker
29 weeks ago

"The whiner needs to ... get those arms ready for winter..."

No, @jawkdna, he doesn't. He's surfing Linda Mar.

#trollinghardorhardlytrolling

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@jawkdna , not golden, just following the rules. I feel like if I don't want people to snake me, then I don't snake people. You know the saying ' do on to others .... just paddle around them and get in the right position.

danimal
29 weeks ago

If you consider yourself an "aggressive" surfer and paddle out at a spot notorious for kids and beginners, you're a wave hog.

bbichin
29 weeks ago

Depends where you're at in Linda Mar. If you're the guy backpaddling everyone at the spot where all the kelp is and then claiming right of way, then yeah, someone might get ticked off. If other people are being mellow and obviously letting stuff pass so others can have fun and you're aggressively going after every wave you can catch, then yeah, someone might get ticked off too. Not sayin' you were doing any of that, but that may be how things are perceived.

piss_shiver
29 weeks ago

Thought about it a moment......you see, you catching all the waves is actually EDUCATIONAL for the noobs there. When they wake up and realize what they're sposed to be doing: going to the peak (in an orderly fashion), looking, and sharing when it's not your right of way, then they'll catch as many waves as you did. That's what I did when I had a fuqn soft top there!? I watched! I learned! I studied! I asked for help! Didn't catch shit for a while even! So instead of that idiot calling you out, he should have asked how you got so many waves...duh!

fatnewt
29 weeks ago

If you receive cash monies then you're a pro.

SFOBKnewb
29 weeks ago

"That's LM for ya. One time I had someone yell at me because I was riding a WH wave and rather than paddle around me and take the whitewater they wanted me to end my ride so they could paddle out across the shoulder. Kooks galore out there."

That has happened to me there as well by a chick. She came paddling over to give me heat, and I was expecting her to apologize for paddling right through my line and forcing me to straighten out. A lot of people don't seem to understand etiquette.

Capra
29 weeks ago

A wave hog is that guy paddling on a massive log (or SUP) way outside who is on nearly every wave before a short boarder can even think of catching it. In Santa Cruz, there is some separation and there seems to be a general understanding of which type of board belongs where, but those distinctions are sometimes blurred at Lindy.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@bbichin .... backpaddling? is that like the moon walk? to some surfing is mellow, sit on the inside, catch the leftovers. Not sayin' you were doing any of that, but that may be how things are perceived.... and then there are people that want the meaty waves, the larger set waves, like to move fast, turn, milk the wave for what it has, for this kind of surfing you have to sit at the point, make moves, change position, and some people might take this in the wrong way. I have surfed all over the world and Linda Mar is the only place I have ever been yelled at.

@ piss_shiver , I also learned by watching, going to spots at Ocean Beach where no one was, and asking questions.

And I wasn't catching all the waves! it was just more than him! There were a couple of SUP's getting even more than me, but we were laughing , and giving each other props for catching fun waves.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@ fatnewt ... Oh I get it! HAHA! It takes me a while sometimes... too much Salt water in the brain...

bbichin
29 weeks ago

If you were in "that spot with all the seaweed", then there's only one spot to take off - ever. If you were there and you were constantly paddling over to the left and a little outside of everyone then you were jumping ahead in line. That will piss people off whether they say anything or not. That said - thats the only spot at LM where I've seen grumpy old men (and women) yelling at other people for no real reason.

I'm assuming you weren't in that spot if you were having to paddle around and about to find the peak. If you were somewhere else on the beach, then the other guy had a problem and you have a right to rant on the Internet. Next time throw some spray all over him.

And, yes, I prefer to sit way on the inside with my log and catch whitewater straight to the beach.

sharkturd
29 weeks ago

"hey, you've caught too many waves, how bout sharing?" In four decades of surfing I've never heard ANYONE say that...well, at least not as politely as that! You say he was older and perceived as angry...then you need to consider the source. That stuff happens with unsurprising regularity at every crowded surfspot on the planet. The fact you felt the need to post on the internet your side of the story hints at self doubt about your actions in the water. If you are the seasoned "aggressive", but fair, shredder that you may think you are, then let that water roll right off your back. BTW, sets don't come just in trains of three:)

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@ sharkturd .... your right! I just feel that if you want waves you have to take them, no one will hand them to you.

@ bbichin ... that guy was north of the peak, not paddling hard for waves, and I should just give him waves.. Uhm.... NO.

This never happens at OB..

hurricanewe
29 weeks ago

@BB's on it. If it's a defined peak with a compacted takeoff and you're paddling back out and around folks to the deepest spot you might wanna pump your breaks. A lot of us are used to shifty beach breaks with a lot of free movement. The wait in line factor gets more extreme when the wave breaks in the same spot every time. If you didn't fuck that up, you're golden!

BarnSwarm
29 weeks ago

Solution:
Stop surfing Linda Mar(ginal).
Worked for me.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

I think @barnswarm has the right idea!

fullybrah
29 weeks ago

wow. lots of comments on this one. you sound fine if you dont snake people. the aggressive part its what i wonder about. it sucks when your wave is coming and a guy paddles ten feet in front of you and takes the wave. but since you said you pay attention to position thats probably not the case. its more likely the person was experiencing sour grapes and upset that you were catching waves when he couldnt. ignoring kooks is usually the best bet. if that cant be done its fun to freak em out. recite some ferlinghetti poetry or ask them "whats your sign?" or tell them that you forgot to take your anti-psychotic meds, and youre feeling feisty.

die2surf
29 weeks ago

I've seen some overly aggressive surfers at Lindy before, as well as the occasional log-rider who keeps lining up much further outside than the true line-up...then paddles for days to catch the wave early and then have to weave around all the surfers in the expected line-up. Those are the guys that can be problematic at a novice spot like Lindy.

And let’s face it, Lindy is owned by longboards, so if you are on a thruster, you’ll get some glares from the old timers if you are in their general area.

And again, it’s Lindy...so I would take any harsh comments from there with a grain of salt. Just smile and surf on!

Righteousdewd
29 weeks ago

"Take waves"? I'm sorry but surfing is not an inherently aggressive sport (hell, I don't even consider it a sport). Aggression only rises its head in a crowd. If you are solo, its just surfing.

Generally speaking, if you are counting waves, there's a good chance that you are a wave hog. Or at least there is some potential.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@Righteousdewd ... surfing is not a sport? huh...

I have never counted waves, not once in 20 years of surfing. You should read the post again. It is not my job to make sure everyone in the line up gets waves, that's there job. The guy didn't even paddle next to me once! He was just sitting there.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

ag·gres·sive
 adjective

1.
making an all-out effort to win or succeed; competitive: an aggressive basketball player.

die2surf
29 weeks ago

An*ger
noun
1. a strong feeling of displeasure and belligerence aroused by a wrong; wrath; ire.

Man*age*ment [man-ij-muhnt]
noun
1. the act or manner of managing; handling, direction, or control.

Combined: a class that my ex-wife had to attend every Tuesday for a year per court order. heh, heh...
(just messin' with ya' elliot. Keep charging bra!)

followthefish
29 weeks ago

The line-up is a unique and dynamic social situation that can require instruction and learning. It almost always requires sharing and communication. Communication can keep the good vibe in check. A little self deprecating humor goes a long way to start the conversation.

When in doubt, be the person you would want to surf with.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@die2surf ... HAHA!! That was good! I am really a mellow person! just love surfing, and love to catch waves.

die2surf
29 weeks ago

@elliot: All in good humor, mang. I just remembered that I actually got talked to once at Lindy a few years back by a local there because I was lining up too far inside (like I said, a thruster in a longboarders world). At first I was thinking "Ch-wa???? This is Lindy...no one should be getting upset at Lindy??" But then I figured that from his point of view, I was a (insert explicative here) in a crash of rhinos. Just try not to let that kind of shiznart get in your head and ruin your sesh.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@die2surf ... your totally right!

Fogtown Y Que
29 weeks ago

@c.elliot, are you "aggressive" or "mellow", maybe if you were both while surfing you would get more stoked rather than provoked.

c.elliot
29 weeks ago

@ Fogtown Y Que .........good luck

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